You are what you absorb, not what you eat

I Really love that saying, you know when people say you are what you eat? Yes.

I, many decades ago had a lecturer who was like, "That means nothing. You are what you absorb."

Totally. It is true. Like you don't have it until it's in your blood.

So you can eat the best diet imaginable best, but if you're not actively breaking

that down and then you've got an intelligent membrane actively allowing

you to absorb that and you don't have bacteria getting in the way, producing lipopolysaccharides that you're

absorbing instead of your food nutrients, then Yeah.

Then you've got it. You've got it if you can digest it and absorb it.

Welcome to Metabolic Balance Stories

Hello and welcome to the Metabolic Balance Stories podcast. This is where we share real stories and insights to help you to understand more

about optimal health, personalized nutrition, generally just getting yourself feeling better and looking better and operating

better and having a wonderful future life. So I'm Cherry Wills, I'm your host and I'm

delighted to welcome and my expert panel to join me today.

And we have Araleena Isse, who is a naturopath and Karen Pyke, clinical nutritionist.

Both are expert Metabolic Balance practitioners and have a wealth of experience in

clinical practice using Metabolic Balance and navigating all things natural medicine and natural health.

So a big welcome to you today.
 Thank you. thanks Cherry

Meet naturopath Araleena Isse and nutritionist Karen Pyke

So what we're talking about today, guys, is gut health, aren't we? So we wanted to do a bit of a deep dive into the importance of gut health.

We're going to be touching on the microbiome and importance of fiber, digestion and

all of that, the essentialness, because that's what we do. We use food. So food has to be digested. And

so we have to have a healthy digestive tract. And I think one of the things that I have noted throughout my clinical practice is

just how quickly gut health is actually impacted as soon as we get the food right.

How quickly gut health can shift once food is right

Araleena, I know you were saying a little comment just before we started, we came on

air today, just the importance of food and how quickly it also you see in practice too.

I sort of think about people's health a little bit like a tide. And when I use

Metabolic Balance, it's like suddenly instead of being deluged by the health and

the problems are just coming in and coming in and coming in, it's like the tide goes out and you have this clear insight into what's going on.

And I think a large part of that is the biggest immune challenge that we face is the consumption of food.

The biggest daily sort of job our body has is to digest and direct food and to turn food into us.

And so getting the food right and not just right in the sense of a good diet, but

right for that person, it creates a very unique space to then help them with other

sort of more entrenched health issues that they might have.

The gut struggles people quietly live with

Yeah, because gut health is often one of the biggest things that people do suffer

from, you know, poor gut health or IBS, constipation, diarrhea, bloating,

discomfort. It's a big thing that is in a lot of people's day to day lives.

I was just treating somebody yesterday, sorry, Karen, I treated somebody yesterday

and they shared with me, they go, oh, I just realized that every day I had a

complete explosion on the toilet around about the same time. And I thought that was normal. And now I know it's not normal.

Yeah, Karen, it's something we see. Yeah. What would you say here? Yeah, look, it's really interesting because gut health is such a big, huge, huge

topic. It is everywhere. And I find that the clients that come to you with gut

issues, so the IBS or the altered bowel motions and things like that. And then there's the ones that come to you for something else. But when you

actually delve into a lot of what else is happening, we still go back to the gut.

And like, it's funny because like, I remember at the time, I always say it always goes back to the gut. It always goes back

to the gut. It always goes back to the gut. But it really does. Like you said, like the foods we eat are the foods that fuel

us, the foods that make us feel great. And they've all got to be digested.

And when the gut's not right, if we're just not fueling ourselves correctly, the

gut will tell us. It's listen to your gut. Listen to what your gut's telling you. And if it's not feeling right, something isn't right.

Yeah. And it's just something that a lot of people suffers quietly, privately, saying, "Okay, this is my normal."

Actually, that's how I used to be. I shared before, my early years, up until I was

sort of mid-30s, really, I used to have a lot of digestive issues. And I always used to say, "Well, this is my normal." So I'll learn if it changes

from being this normal, that I will actually get worried.

But actually then when you realize that's not normal to have this kind of IBS pattern of discomfort.

The explosion in gut microbiome research

And I think if we start off as well just really sort of talking about the gut microbiome, because as in a research topic,

though, this is really taking precedence today, isn't it? The last five, 10 years has seen an absolute

explosion in research into the impact of the gut microbiome.

I think we only just starting to really understand it as well. Like I think we've said on other podcasts that nutrition research, science, has

been around for such a short amount of time. Well, the research in the gut microbiome has been around for less time. And we're still going to keep learning.

Like we're going to keep getting more and more information, which is just amazing.

I was going to say as well, we're just developing the technology to be able to really see what happens or where are people's gut microbiomes as a baseline.

And then what happens when we start changing what they eat? And does it happen to everybody? what they eat? And does it happen to everybody?

And it's microbiome research is fascinating. And especially people that have inflammatory

bowel disease, people that have constipation or diarrhea, we see similar patterns and we want

to be able to change and support that pattern. But in my experience, pre-being a Metabolic Balance practitioner, I could change

things when I was giving people a lot of supplementation and herbs. But it would always go back once they were not taking that, once the herbs and the

supplementation wasn't holding their microbiome in that place. And then that's when I realized I need to make a

more profound change to what people are eating. And that general diet advice or just eating well

didn't cut it. It just didn't cut it for most people. And in fact, I could implement inflammatory bowel diets

and they were not really fully addressing what was going on.

But since being a Metabolic Balance practitioner, I have a lot of inflammatory bowel clients.

And I find that the ability for Metabolic Balance

to control these people's inflammation, which is,

depending on what type of inflammatory bowel disease you have, but is often really driven by microbiome.

I'm quite amazed at the... Once we make it individual and unique to that person,

and once we start getting very specific, I love the specificness of Metabolic Balance, you don't have to guess anything.

You know exactly what to eat, when to eat it. That's when their inflammation, gut

inflammation levels start coming down and they're good bacteria stuff going on. And I think it's that recognition that the gut

microbiome isn't just limited to the health of the gut.

It actually has far, far, completely systemic whole body influences.

Gut health, inflammation and whole body impact

There was this 2025 research that I was looking at that showed that the different metabolites

from the gut microbiome can impact arterial buildup, so as in heart health.

So if you don't have the right gut microbiome, you also are at increased risk of cardiovascular issues.

And it's why, again, coming back, you've got to come back to your food. You've got to come back to how you are actually

digesting your food, because that influences the microbiome, which influences other organ systems and susceptibility.

I think understanding that a small intestine is a highly permeable membrane,

and when it's full of food that's being broken down by enzymes and hydrochloric acid,

that those tiny molecules of food are being rapidly absorbed over into the blood.

But if there's a whole lot of bacteria that we don't want in that small intestine,

then the poo of that intestine will be rapidly absorbed or will move into the blood. if the small intestine is not functioning how it

should and isn't filled with what it should be filled with, and the same for the large intestine, then we

have all sorts of complicated systemic impacts. Brain fog, fatigue, poor sleep, anxiety, but then

also cardiovascular health, nervous system health, systemic inflammation.

Yeah. Yeah. The gut-brain axis kind of comes to mind when also you're talking about that

brain foggy thinking and cognitive function

nervous system. That gut-brain axis is incredibly powerful. It's very fast. It is incredibly

highly influenced. It's a chicken and an egg as well situation. What comes first? It's really interesting. I can even notice

as well situation. What comes first? It's really interesting. I can even notice in myself as well that I certainly follow the

Metabolic Balance principles in my day-to-day, but especially coming off the back of Easter when... I'm not sure when this podcast is going out,

but we have just had Easter. Coming off the back of Easter, there has been more sugar in the house.

The one thing I say it about myself is when I eat sugar,

I literally cannot concentrate on the words that I need to say.

and fed the gut all of this sugar that it really doesn't like. and then I know what I want to say. The words

are there, but I literally can't get them out. I'm like, "What's that word? What's that word I'm trying to think of?" As soon as I clean out

that sugar, everything comes back. It is absolutely

fascinating when you feed the gut and the microbes and everything we have got down there,

the beneficial bacterias, you feed them what they need, the body just... The connections come back.

Yeah. There's that phrase that the gut brain...

Or the gut is the remote control for the brain. That's it. If you support the gut, you're

immediately going to be controlling the brain that much better. When we talk about fiber as

Rethinking fibre: old myths versus new science

well, we know fiber is a bit of a buzzword. Everybody talks about the importance of fiber. What

would you say that we're looking out there? I think it's really interesting how we used to

think about fiber and how we now understand fiber. Because remember, there was ads for fiber back

in the 80s and they'd be like, "It's an intestinal room." It just swigged everything out because

we were convinced that it was the fact that we didn't digest it and that it just did a little

squeaky. It was that kind of thing that it didn't really interact as well. It was like it was very much just sort of a push it through and

that's all that happens. No interaction. Fiber is all about your gut microbiome.

It's all about it because you don't digest it. You don't break it down and absorb its little parts and then use them. It largely

moves into large intestine undigested where it starts to be acted on by bacteria.

Particular fibers are acted on by particular bacteria.

It ferments. In the large intestine, this is where we ferment all the expensive stuff.

We ferment our CoQ10 in the large intestine. We ferment our serotonin,

the tryptophan. It's where vitamin K, it's where

a lot of the good stuff is produced by our body

if it's got the right things to ferment. I think there's so many, again, that the

beneficial bacteria that's there influences so much within the body. Our immune system,

our hormone production, all of that is also influenced from there. We need that fiber to

feed all of that good bacteria so we can actually strengthen those. Metabolic health, we know that

we can influence that by the fiber we eat. Whereas, fiber previously was if you struggle to go to

the toilet, just have fiber. That was what we thought of it as years ago. Whereas now fiber has

a function in the body. A lot of people get scared of fiber as well. It's like, "Oh, I can't

have any fiber in my diet." We all need it.

I love that MB allows that. We need the right ones. We need the right stuff in the right quantities.

and there's some research that is increasingly showing how it interacts as well. I think that's

what I love reading. We know that oats can be a great soluble fiber, but actually

there was some research that talked about the oats and the yogurt really supporting true

beneficial shifts in that microbiome composition. Those are actually some key staples that we have

been recommending with Metabolic Balance for years and years, but we're increasingly seeing the evidence that's just finding new ways that

show that how powerful that these foods can be. I think it's really also important to think about

Why fibre matters for blood sugar balance

fiber from the blood glucose perspective as well. Yes, yeah, absolutely.

Fiber usually will have a bit of a carbohydrate component, but it's really hard to break down. It's a

bit of a workhorse for your body. That glucose

and it impacts other glucose that's in the gut at the same time. It slows the release of glucose

into the bloodstream. Instead of having this sort of steep incline that gives you a little bit of

high blood glucose and then a dip that makes you feel ****** on the other side of it, you get this nice wave

Yeah by controlling that you're controlling that inflammatory response within the body as well

Yeah Yeah, it's coming back to the holistic approach. It's not just one thing that something does or

that food and balance in our diet does. It's the knock-on effect, but what came first?

Everything is of equal importance in so many ways from what I see.

Personalising fibre choices for each client

I think with fiber, like a lot of the fiber that we can get from our foods, that what I found with my clients is that very

few, if anyone reacts to the fiber within the food, but I've had clients that have come to me

previously that are taking additional forms of fiber, like psyllium husk. Psyllium husk is not a bad thing, but for some people,

their bodies just cannot work well with it. They've actually come in and they've been bloated.

When we've kind of got down in something, it's like, "Oh, yeah, take psyllium husk." And we've stopped the psyllium husk. We've

used the foods or different forms of fiber, and they feel so much better. That

individualization, that personalization that comes with

everything that we do with Metabolic Balance can be applied to the fiber as well.

The at-home sweetcorn transit time test

A lot of fiber choice, I feel, relates to transit time.

A while back, I started doing a transit evaluation of most of my clients,

and I was really surprised by how many people had a very, very slow transit time,

even though they were having a bowel motion every day. The time that between eating something

and it coming out the other end was sort of two to three times what it should be.

When we have that really slow transit, that's when we can over ferment, get very bloated,

not be excreting enough because the bowel's a big

part of how we get rid of everything that we don't need. Once I understood how transit time was

impacting people's health more, then it made it so much easier to pick the fiber that they

needed. People with slow transit time give them psyllium and it slows that transit time down even more

and they feel worse. People with a super fast transit time, you give them psyllium and they

feel great. That understanding of what is actually

driving this problem and not giving a blanket answer, actually giving this nuanced answer,

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right, back to the conversation I mean, that's what personalized nutrition and personalized medicine is actually

about, isn't it? It's really talking to a professional who's going to say, "Okay, I think

we need to try this." You can assess so much from just really good health history

taking and understanding really what's going on. Like a transit time test, I get people to do it at home, it costs nothing.

Yeah, is it like eating a kind of sweet corn? It's the sweet corn. so, yeah so if anybody listening, this is really where you eat

some sweet corn and note the time and then you just monitor when you start to see it come

out the other end. That is the beauty of this simple transit time test. Sometimes you'll see

it all come out at once, other times it'll take a while. Don't eat more sweet corn. Yes, absolutely. Yes, it's a one-off sweet corn.

I would even say eat sweet corn once in a fortnight, as in just really give it a full,

because you just never quite know how A two-week test, I've had it.

Yeah, yeah exactly. I'm into my clinic and that was someone who had a bowel motion every day.

Yeah, the intestine is a, gosh, I don't know

what the actual statistic is off the top of my head, but it is an incredibly long tube in effect that wraps all around itself.

And so you never quite know the personal intricacies of where all the little pockets

and where things can get held up in that tube as they're flowing through. So it is pretty

fascinating to do this. And that's really interesting because I've got to have a few patients who have then gone on to do the Smart

Pill. So a little Smart Pill that you swallow

and then it actually tracks exactly where, how

long did it take to get from the mouth to the stomach? How long was it in the stomach for? How long did it take to get from the start of the

small intestine to the end of the long intestine? How long did it take to get out? And also,

was it delayed anywhere? But interestingly, what I discovered through that process was that the

corn test is considered equal in terms of total transit time. So they'll usually

do the corn test with people before they do the Smart Pill because the time in which it takes

the corn to get through will be the time it takes the Smart Pill to get through. Well, that's because it's going through the

same system. It's going to the same pathways. Yeah. Accurate total transit time evaluation. And that's well established now.

Yeah, that's fascinating. it's fascinating, have you done any tests on people pre-Metabolic Balance and

post-metabolic balance? Yes. And what I find is

that without me having to use herbs or nutrients,

a lot of people, their transit time will naturally balance. Sometimes they need a little

bit of support. As we know, once you start

changing, especially if it's a huge change in food for them,

but that I have people who have never been able to come off fiber support pre-Metabolic Balance.

That once their gut really settles down to digesting the new diet, that they don't require

additional fiber or not a medicine type of

fiber. So as we know, we're often adding food fibers

to Metabolic Balance. I'll often be picking certain foods and helping people navigate how

much fiber they need. Especially I monitor

people's blood glucose levels. And since I started doing that, I noticed that some people will

have a blood glucose dip between say 2 and 5 am.

And what I found is that fiber during the

day and at night is very within their food. Is very important for managing that night time and dipping blood glucose.

I think it just shows how it can slow things down or just balance that blood sugar release and

management. And we need to do these things consistently. I think that's always the

take home for me. We are just this beautiful rhythmic clock at the end of the day. All of

our body is this rhythmic clock that wants to flow through our 24 hour cycle. And so our food and

our nourishment and what we're including in all of that food and nourishment needs to go with

that consistency and that balance.
 again that goes back to one of the benefit of Metabolic Balance in that

Why rhythm and consistency matter for digestion

we have that consistency. Even like my clients,

every time they come in, we have a chat about what they've been eating and the timings of day they've been eating, especially around their

work schedule. And it's amazing how consistent people become. That rhythm, that natural rhythm

comes in with the foods to allow the body, the balance

I think It's so interesting that our society is so obsessed with socializing and food and the

impact of socializing on food on the way that we eat. Like our brunches, dips in alcohol in the

early afternoon and things like this. We change the way that we eat in order to socialize often.

But that's just a complete concept because in

fact, all that time our body is here going, "Oh,

when do I need to make the digestive enzymes? Oh, when do I need to warm the stomach up with a bit

of hydrochloric acid? Oh, when do I..." So,

whatever we think we would like to do from a social perspective or a work perspective, our body

continues to need what it needs. And the evidence is that your body wakes up at a certain time. It's

ready to eat at a certain time. And more than that, that health is training your body to be ready. So, having a rhythm to your life,

having an order to the way that you deliver food

so that your body is primed and ready for it so it can digest it.

Yeah, I think that's really such an important point. I always think back to

when my boys, I've got two boys, and when they were little babies, they're grown men now,

but when they were little babies, when I stuck to the rhythm that the babies liked, when I

kept to three hours of feeding and three hours of sleeping, and then that's a real rhythm and

predictability for them. They were very content little babies. But as soon as I tried to rush

them or change things or try to do things the way, just, "No, we have to go here and

and change their routine," they became quite cranky. And this reality is that the human body,

we work naturally well on a rhythm. Now, this does not mean we can't be sociable and we can go with

the flow because as soon as we do get stronger and greater health, we are going to be more resilient.

We're going to be more flexible and things are going to become very much more possible. But we

equally have to realize that, yeah, brunch every Saturday, that change isn't always the best thing

to do when our body is used to having a nice breakfast followed by a break and then lunch.

Suddenly, to shove a meal in the middle of that and then expect you to feel fantastic on that

sudden change, you've got to stop and think, "Oh, is that why I'm actually a bit tired on a Monday

morning?" Kind of push yourself.
 The noons are just a blur. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But

we're getting a little off topic because we were talking about the gut. This is what happens. We

always tend to go off topic.
 I think it's still relevant to the gut though, because even when we feed the

gut regularly so the gut knows when it's going to get fed. Then when we go out of our rhythm,

we are actually forcing the gut to go out of rhythm as well and go out of balance. It's

affecting the bacteria. The foods that we select at those times when we go off are probably very different foods to what

we would normally have. Then all of a sudden, the gut's just not prepared for it and we see the dysfunction that comes in again.

Understanding gut barrier integrity and leaky gut

Yeah, I mean everything comes back to the gut. No matter where we go. But the other thing I

really wanted to touch on in this session was the importance of that gut barrier integrity.

The phrase that I think has been bandied around social media in various circles for 20 years or

more is this term leaky gut. A lot of people can talk about leaky gut. Now, obviously, we really

need to say that gut integrity and intestinal permeability. Leaky gut is more about sort of

catch-all phrase of... Araleena, would you just like to just share, talk about that

importance of gut brain integrity and what leaky gut really is? So, I like to think about it as, I think I

mentioned it before, we've got our small intestine and that's where the stomach is delivering

the masticated food and the chewed food. So,

yeah, the chewed food. It's mixed with hydrochloric acid and also some digestive enzymes.

And it gets pumped out in little blobs into the small intestine. And then in the small intestine,

we're getting these little villi and more enzymes

and it's sort of switching into that digested food. And what we're aiming to get is that we can

rapidly absorb the nutrients, vitamins, protein

and glucose over into our bloodstream because that's how we build ourselves.

So, it's a highly permeable membrane. It shouldn't have, it should be very slick.

So, bacteria shouldn't be able to adhere to it. Any bacteria that survive the hydrochloric hit

in your stomach should just be like sliding on through. And it's very selective. We want it to be

healthy, fresh, selective. So, the body is very intelligent. It will be pulling out what it needs

and we want to enhance that. And that's what I

see Metabolic Balance doing. It takes a lot of weight off the digestion and it simplifies things.

And then what we're really wanting to make sure is that you have enough building blocks in your

food so that you can maintain that barrier,

that beautiful selective barrier. And you can maintain your villi, which are your little

fingers sticking off the barrier where a lot of

this enzymatic reaction goes on and the breaking down of the food so that you can absorb. And

really, I feel like leaky gut is a patient-friendly

way of describing the gut itself, not just what you're putting in it, but this lining of the gut

working optimally. And I find a lot of the time

it's because people sort of go, "Oh, what am I looking at here? Am I looking at a cheese grater

effect? What would leaky gut look like?" But it's more a function. It's not acting intelligently and selectively. It's being run by

what you're sticking in it and it's no longer intelligent. Yeah. So, we're intentionally looking at the

barrier that's in that small intestine that determines what nutrients and all the different

components of our food, how it can be used by the body and how we want it to go preferably to the

liver and we all go through the proper processes. But it can, in some instances, where that gut

barrier integrity can really start to break down, it can lead to entering the bloodstream, which

then can lead to all sorts of immune responses where we don't really want it to. And that

can cause sort of increased inflammation and

numerous different problems systemically around the body. So, when we're looking at it from that point of

view, I often, you know, we'd need to have great food to restore the gut barrier, but we also

need the barrier in place to make use of the food as well. I explained about the leaky gut with

my clients. I sort of explained that we are just made up of cells. That's what we are. We're so

many cells that come together. We have cells that sit on top of each other and we have cells that sit next to each other. And in our gut, we have these

tight junctions and they're like little fingers that they stick together and they keep everything

nice and tight and they're stuck in there. As we don't look after our gut, they start to open a

little bit so they can't hold on as tight as they used to. So therefore, the leaky gut sort of

happens more. So, although we have nutrients that sort of go to different places, there's ones that we don't want to go out, the bacteria and the

toxins that enter the bloodstream. So, we've got to use the right nutrients to make sure that we,

as we have to keep ourselves strong and healthy, we've got to keep all these cells nice and

strong and healthy. So, we've got to feed the body the right foods to make sure we can keep that

integrity. Well, yeah. A little bit like, you know, would you throw stones into your washing machine and then

pop your best jeans in and stick it on and put it at 90 degrees? No.

and I think, you know, it used to be quite a sort of a fringe concept,

this idea of leaky gut. But it is really the research over the last 20 years or more has

really brought it to the forefront of gastroenterology that they fully recognise. Increased,

you know, intestinal permeability really can lead to all sorts of issues, including, you know,

liver issues, obesity, diabetes, and the gut

brain barrier, not the gut brain superhighway. So,

we're also talking about people with increased risk of nervous system and mood disorders. When

their gut's integrity is not in place. So, bringing that as an important aspect that

what you are eating is vital for restoring this

balance and, you know, restoring the integrity.

Bringing it all together: absorption over diet

I really love that saying, you know, when people say, "You are what you eat." I, many decades ago, had a lecturer who was like,

"Oh, it means nothing. You are what you absorb." Totally, yeah.

It is true. Like, you don't have it until it's in your blood. So, you can eat the best diet imaginable,

best. But if you're not actively breaking

that down and then got an intelligent membrane,

actively allowing you to absorb that, and you don't have bacteria getting in the way, producing lipopolysaccharides that you're absorbing instead of your food nutrients,

then, you know, then you've got it. You've got it if you can digest it and absorb it.

yeah, exactly. It is that... It's the classic thing of, "Let's get back to what we're

eating and then really get the food right, get rid of the foods that don't serve us, and then

see how the body responds as well," which is essentially what we do with personalized nutrition.

Let's find the right foods and then let's move forward and see what happens. and not just what you're eating, but when you're eating, how you're eating.

And I think it's really important to kind of talk about it as well and sort of mention that, like, obviously, like, if somebody has had IBS-type symptoms for a long, long time,

we're not looking for a quick fix. We're not going to go, "If you eat this today, you're going to feel better tomorrow." It can

still take time to re-establish a really healthy gut. But I have to say with Metabolic Balance,

the results are quite staggering with how quickly we will see an improvement. Like, it literally is a matter of

weeks where I see that first client that's come back that's had this terrible issue for such a

long time, and they feel so much better because

we've got the food right, because they're eating the right way, because they're drinking the right

amount of water. They've got the support of their practitioner that's also helping them with any

lifestyle changes and things like that as well. I guess people shouldn't suffer. Like, it can be changed.

That's always what I would love to get across with anybody who might be listening, is that

it really can be possible to change things around. The gut is one of the fastest

reproducing cells in the body. It actually wants to, you know, it will restore balance

really quickly when it's given a true opportunity to do so. agreed

You can get so much change in a really short period of time. I noticed that too, Karen.

Yeah, yeah, you really can. Right, so thank you

so much. I think that it's given a really good, you know, we could carry, like we said, it all

comes back to the gut, so we could actually carry on chattering on this for a good, you know, twice

as long. But I think, you know, hopefully people realize that, you know, your food makes a

massive difference to the health of your gut. And the health of your gut makes an enormous difference to your entire holistic whole body

health and future and energy and, you know, well-being. And we know that when that gut

is compromised, when things aren't right, we feel it. We feel it in our whole bodies

when something isn't right in the gut. So, you know, really let's pay attention more

and, yeah, pay attention to how we're feeling on that whole, that flow through the body.

And it is incredible how things can shift and change and rebalance when they're given an opportunity.

How straightforward making this shift can be. Often when I'm doing a, like a free chat with

somebody, that they'll be like, "Oh, I just don't know if I've got the time, I forgot the energy, if I've got the willpower." And almost,

well, actually today, every single time, a couple of weeks later, they're like, "Oh, it was a lot easier than I thought it would be."

Yes, because life is also a lot easier when your gut is feeling a hell of a lot happier.

Life again makes it so much easier to do everything. Absolutely.

Thank you, ladies. It's been wonderful to chat to you again and we will catch up again soon

and unravel further essential insights. But for now, thank you. Much appreciated.

And if anybody would like to hear more about Metabolic Balance, you can check out the website

and you can also find details of getting in touch with Araleena and Karen as well, who are fantastic

Metabolic Balance practitioners working with clients in their clinics day every day.

So thank you to both of you and we will catch up again soon. And hear more Metabolic Balance Stories.

Thank you Thanks Cherry