and hello I am very delighted to uh welcome arolina YY to join me today

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arolina is a very experienced degree qualified naturopath and metabolic

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balanc practitioner hello Arina hello Cherry how are

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you I'm good thank you it's really great to chat to you today um so you brought

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MB into your practice which is in Reservoir Victoria you brought MV into

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your practice uh last year April 2023 can you just maybe sort of paint a

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picture about what what brought you to you know to be interested in metabolic balance as such an experience that well

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what I started to notice was that I had a lot of patience where I was getting a

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lot of improvement in their health but I wasn't necessarily um able to graduate

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them so they would need to come and see me for a really really long period of

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time and we would be working very hard against the tide of their symptoms so

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every visit would be um dealing with a different set of symptoms or the same

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set of symptoms but it might take a number of years to get them to a point

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of really good health and then I would be sort of expecting them to then

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graduate but they and not to need to see me as often or at all but they wouldn't

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necessarily graduate they would need to see me on and on and on and they would

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need to take a fair amount of herbs and supplements to maintain that good health

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that we'd we'd found and so I also noticed that this

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happened more in patients that were carrying more weight and I started looking around initially

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for a solution um a weight loss solution for people who had chronic health conditions

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basically and I did quite a lot of research and eventually I stumbled

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across metabolic balance and as soon as I started reading about it I got really interested and I was like oh um and I

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said to myself the same thing that a lot of my clients say which is no this is too good to be true

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that's actually part of our problem no couldn't be true it couldn't be true but

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there was enough information there that I might really picked my interest and so

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what I did was I booked a call with you and after i' spoken to you I was like

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now I'm really interested and I eventually took the

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leap to study to become a MB coach

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and even doing the study um I found very

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interesting because what I found was a lot of what I was learning was what was

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missing out of my degree in naturopathy um like all the pieces made

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sense because I was like oh yeah I I remembered that yes yes I use that bit of information all the time but putting

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it together the way that Professor funf fact puts it

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together and it all started to make sense and I'm like ah it was just lining up the Ducks for

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me when I came out of the training I felt really confident um I applied

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metabolic balance to myself um and part of my driver for um

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becoming a practitioner and studying it was that I was you know um be Beyond

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mid-40s let's just say that we should always celebrate our age

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in and I noticed around the mid mid 40s was when I started putting on weight and

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I was putting on a kilo a year at least and so I wanted a solution for

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myself as well because I ate exceptionally I ate really really well

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my health was good but I couldn't stop putting on a kilo a year

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and when I started eating metabolically all of that just fell away

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and I have never really worried about my weight since in the same way as I did

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yeah um and when I started applying it to my

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patients that's when I was like wow this

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makes really profound difference in so many of the cases that I work with um

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yeah and many of my clients suffer from very complex

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diseases and what metabolic balance does is it lets me basically it turns the

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tide and we can actually get into the ocean much more

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easily that's a really cool interesting way you've described it so yeah so do you want to so turn the tide just sort

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of fill me in a bit more with you mean so I now that I've worked with metabolic balance for almost a year what I realize

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is that the way people eat what they eat and the way they eat it even if it's

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healthy food healthy food um yeah can

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lead to a lot of inflammation um unnecessary weight gain

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um poor digestive function um hormonal problems

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and this is sort of like the tide it's just where they're every day eating every single day what they're eating is

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leading to these issues and then as a naturopath you're trying to fight

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against the tide of just what they're eating let alone what's happening in a deeper

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level and so once I get them eating

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metabolically and it doesn't have to be perfect that's what I love about the metabolic de balance diet it just needs

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to be good enough once I them eating good

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enough then um there's a resolution uh their gut is functioning

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better their detoxification systems are functioning better they are carrying less weight there's less inflammation

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and then we can really get in and go well what's left what what's here that's

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not the way you're living and eating that is in fact the disease that you're

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suffering from and so I get to work in a much more

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focused way I get to see my treatments working more effectively and

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faster um I get to um I get the trust of

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my patients more as well because I think that people that struggle with

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inflammation weight um and chronic digestive issues they've tried everything usually they've tried a lot

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lot of things and not much has worked um and so when you have something

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that works it really earns

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trust it's very it's actually really special when you know that you can actually do something with such um con

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you know genuine conviction as well that what I'm suggesting here is actually in your best interests not just to keep

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taking money of you that type of thing because of not what we what we want as practitioners at all is it you just you

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want to help well the thing is is that people see me now for less time and

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ultimately less often but they refer more people you get to you get to help more

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people essentially as well don't you you you actually really do get to to have more impact like for today

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for example I was uh speaking to a client um who was who has

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many many um treatments uh over the years and hasn't always had had a very

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small to moderate success and not long-term success with those treatments and so she was quite hesitant

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but because she's known me for a really long time and she had seen the success

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of another patient of mine who had been through metabolic balance she took the leap of faith and now now she's like oh

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I can see my sister my friend my cousin my parents they all need to see you as

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well for metabolic balance and so the the Imp because you're having

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this profound impact and it's something the metabolic balance package that you offer basically

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changes somebody's eating for life it's not just a two week a TW month or a

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six-month program you actually give them the skills to eat for the rest of their life

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and so once somebody is a month or two in they start to realize this like

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ah um I know how to bring my inflammation down I know how to address

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weight gain I know how to um address my gut and I also can eat out and I can and

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I can work out what meals to eat out and they start to realize that you're actually building a wealth of knowledge

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within them about their own body and yeah I think that's really

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interesting what you just said about sorry um just want to just pick up on something there because um that you know

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the learning that people have but also the recognition that it's incredibly

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achievable and doable for the long term that it's you know this um I think I I

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mean like what how do you feel or let me ask you this

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um the a lot of the time people are almost scared to do Lifestyle Changes

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because they think they're going to be hard or too big or too much of an effort

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what would you say about that with with metabolic balance I actually think that metabolic balance is the most

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straightforward and easy to apply uh food guideline that I have ever

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seen in 20 years of naturopathy it is

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far it is far easier to apply um in fact

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most of my clients say it is the life hack that they've waited 40 years to

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find and it clarifies things so much doesn't it simplifies food

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choices it can be adapted to any style of eating any cuisine um

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preference for eating is so easily adapted because it's I call it um non

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um it's not it's actually not restrictive it's really telling you what

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foods uh best support you and then gives you an opportunity to find out what

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foods are um work well for you and what

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other Foods don't work well for you so you end up eating in the long term on

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metabolic balance you end up eating very broadly and in fact most of the time I

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will see people's diets expand naturally sort of expand and

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eating from a much broader palette of foods I commonly use metabolic balance for people who having allergic reactions

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to foods and they will often Comm on how

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their tolerance to Foods has increased so dramatically and their ability to eat

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water almost that they weren't expecting that to happen either sometimes it's a real shock to them isn't it that

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suddenly they are tolerating food so much better and so the other thing that

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I love about the the amount of change is that as a practitioner I actually get to control the amount of change that

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somebody has to face so I do have clients that are really scared

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of changing and where we will just address one meal at a time so we'll move

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them really slowly onto the plan um yeah

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and so I really like that about metabolic violance it's really easy as a practitioner

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to craft the introduction and to really find out what

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somebody needs how what do they need what are they going to be able to do and

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then once I have their plan I I can know right I'm going to introduce it this way or that

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way yeah I think that's even it described so beautifully why it's a

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practitioner only program as well though because this is not just about a plan

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okay everybody follows it in exactly the same way because that's that's it it loses that's not what we're able to what

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we want we want to truly see a person as an individual which we do with MB and

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then actually support them in the right way for them I think it's quite exciting because it's it's a tool it's not uh you

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just apply this um I've had many patients that I work with they

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suffer from very complex chronic diseases and I have to apply the plan

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really intelligently and um

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really articulate every part of the plan um

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and they really they they you see people really appreciate

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that yeah yeah because again they they they're it's truly adapted to them they

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see it's about personalized nutrition I mean it says it all doesn't it it's about really personalizing it it really

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does and it's yeah you're teaching them as you go along that's the beauty of it

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is the as you go along you say okay try this and see what happens and report

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back and they try it they're oh that worked but why and then you're able to

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explain well I know but this is why it worked um and yeah that for me that's

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the juice because I'm educating people about their body rather than just

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prescribing something that I understand yeah yeah yeah I mean I would

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also like love now to hear from you just a couple of your favorite clients or

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client success stories that are jumping into your head at the moment my have you got some alltime favorite client is and

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I think this is this is a great case is Jean and yeah

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Jean uh is about 78 she um into cooking

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does not have a she actually has some thyroid challenges so already um you

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know she's got challenges that she faces there and she had um seen me for a long

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time and she really struggled with her weight during that whole time and we uh working with herbs and

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nutrients we we' reduced her weight by six kilos but it had the weight reduction had ground to a Hal

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and she really so where was she when she started with you over 85 kilos so she

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got down she was she's just under five foot

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tall okay so she's yeah so quite little yeah you can yeah okay yeah and

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she um needed to lose about another 20 kilos and she was one of the patients

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where I was like got I I'm stuck like how on Earth she eats perfectly um she

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follows everything that I say we're using herbs how on Earth are we going to lose another 20

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kilos [Music] um then I discovered metabolic balance

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she was like look I don't like the sound of this however I do trust

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you so I'm going to do it and then when I delivered her plan to her she looked

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at it and tongue in cheek she's very cheeky a

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78y

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and and I am aware that it's not what you would normally eat is it and she's

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like no I've never eaten any of this food and I said look are you willing to

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try it for two weeks well I've paid a lot of money so I'm going to give it a go and after the two weeks she came and

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saw me as a followup and she said okay I like you

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again and I think that she did go on to

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lose a further 20 kilos and um or close I think 18 kilos further on top of the

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original six um and she continues to lose weight

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to her own immense surprise she now weighs less than she did when

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she was in her 40s yeah and does she and how does she

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feel because I'm always I'm always from I love it how that how people feel how

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how does she feel so she's gone from a 78y old woman who can't really think about holidays she just you know is in

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her own home uh and taking her dog for short walks that was her life before MB

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and now she does things like go on barley

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yay I love it and and she wears um

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bathers and she hasn't worn bathers for most of her life and now she does things like she

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goes to Myers and but goes in and she went to DJs sorry yeah she went to DJs

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and she said I felt so excited because I was going to on B and I actually felt

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excited about it and when I came out I came out of the change room in the bathers to ask the

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ladies which ones look better that's

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awesome that is so good love yeah I never get tired of hearing uh these

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stories yeah so um I find that that's one of my because and what she says is

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her planed Foods were Foods she would never think of eating ever but they now

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form the pillars of her diet and she

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loves them she also loves the fact she's like I can now go out with my family and

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eat a meal out and I don't have to worry about it I

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can just enjoy it I think that's that's that MB gives

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people um so there's that story um yeah I've got so many I really have

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so oh give us another one come on give us another story oh so this story is

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about a client another client has worked with me for a very very long time who has cr's disease um where again it felt

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like that real tide of we were always dealing with very very problematic bows

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so she would have green stools um mucus f bu stools um she get a lot of gurgling

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poor digestive function I've done microbiome tests with her we've done food allergy tests um I've worked with

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her for a really long time and she has had huge improvement from naturopathy

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however again somebody I suggest mv2 she goes well look is it just another one of

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your suggestions you know meaning the all worked well

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however is it just another thing and I'm like well I don't think so she's like well okay I trust you or I actually said

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I didn't say I don't think so I actually said it is not just another thing this

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is actually really special great and she is two months into eating

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MB foods and she has normal stool

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and I'm not having to use herbs for her gut her immune system um she suffered

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from chronic sinusitis um and chronic sinus problems

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that's resolved by at least 50% just by changing what she ate um and she has noticed that her food

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tolerance across the board has increased

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yeah um yeah so I think that it's uh in my

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experience it's extremely helpful tool for

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naturopathy not not all clients um are open to

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change but even a small window of openness to change like so the two cases

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that I've shared they wanted change so they wanted their their health to be

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different but they only had a small window open for them actually

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changing um yeah that I think they didn't almost realize that they how much

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they really wanted it or how easy it was going to be so they could of saying it was this could be hard so is this worth

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it in some ways yeah very much so yeah

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so desire to change this big you know this big and a a window of willingness

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to change this big but even in those clients if yeah it's because the results

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happen that's the that's the point though isn't it as soon as you get results then it's like oh oh okay this

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is worth it absolutely that's the point when people realize this is not a about

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um deprivation it's not about never eating out it's not about never eating treat

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it's not about um having to eat Foods I don't

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like it's actually about making and eating food I enjoy

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um learning the principles of metabolic balance so that I can apply them enough

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of the time that I can get away with it when I'm not applying them and yeah yeah then what can my body

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tolerate and I'm often saying that to my clients they'll say can I do this or can I do that and I'm like well what happens when you do it let's talk about that and

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so teaching them to observe what happens in their own body and let that inform

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them as to what they should do yeah that's that's a beautifully put

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because it's about actually giving somebody the actual um almost there's a

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certain degree of control over your health at the end of the day you you know we don't we don't do anything

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perfectly but you know the boundaries you now want to live within based on the

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results you end up getting because we could all eat absolutely anything but you know actually how does it make us

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feel that's really what we ultimately want to know but until you actually raise the potential of somebody raise

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that level of Health to a point where people even realize what their potential is so that they can judge it yes well

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you you know they they can't even make that informed choice no and the I often

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talk about MB like driving a car so so we've got four phases four

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gears and um um like if you once you learn how to

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apply each pH your body will tell you what phase it needs to be in and um uh you know you can do a mini

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reset at any time one of my clients worked out she goes I can reset for a day and it makes a

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difference AB it does um and I think when people realize

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this then that really gives them a huge huge amount of

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it's like relaxed control it's like yes it's a type of but it's like the control you have when driving a car like we

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would rely call yeah as opposed to being on a runaway train because that's actually a runaway train is somehow

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sometimes what you find people feel like they're in there when they when they first come to you isn't it it's like I don't I can't do anything about what my

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health is the direction my health is going and it's like like like you said even at the beginning you know your the

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weight was slowly creeping on and it was just creeping on that was it and despite

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it was it was creeping on regardless of how I eat and I think that as natural

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path I understood somewhat but as a metabolic practitioner I understand so

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much more about why that was happening yeah and

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um I think that when that starts to happen to

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people and I've treated clients where they've gained 10 20 kilos in a year and

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as a naturopath I have not had the tools to address that as an practitioner I

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feel confident in addressing that yeah I know yeah that's exactly so

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yeah thank you that's amazing is there anything else that you would love to share if somebody is thinking of um

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doing metabolic balance is there anything you would just say to to help them make up their mind I would say

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that it's been even though I've spent 20 years eating well and focused on my

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health I would say that changing my diet to a metabolic Balance style diet has

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been one of the most profound impacts that I've had on my personal health

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and I would also say that when I work with a client um and I'm using a

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metabolic balance diet that I know the

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magnitude of that positive impact it's going to have on their

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life and so I get really excited and yeah when I can still have a

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huge impact on people not using metabolic balance but I know when I've got that in the toolkit that I can use

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with somebody I know right we going to get to some serious places seriously

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quick yeah yeah and then you can potentially have those holidays in barley like Jean has exactly I know

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they're going to be going from the couch to Barley

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yeah love it love it oh that's just awesome thank you so much for sharing

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um with me uh Arina today and um I'm just yeah delighted to have you on board

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whether as an MB practitioner and um I think uh it's um it's wonderful of the

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people you're gonna help thank you so much it's so exciting to work with MB I'm really pleased that I took that leap

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a year ago yeah awesome yeah I'm pleased you took the leap

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too so that's that's my you know my goal is just to get as many people helped

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with MB as possible um you know I've been using it for over 10 years now and

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I never get tired of hearing all the wonderful results people get that's why I have you know the ongoing passion for

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it well just wonderful the the the results speak for themselves and and

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that's the thing about MB it's like I think when when you see the

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results on somebody else that Sparks hoping people and then

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they've still got to make the leap themselves and believe it can happen for them too and that's a hurdle that some

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people face believing I can get the results that other people are getting um

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but I'm yet to see uh MB not produce

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these results yeah yeah absolutely awesome

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thank you so much Arina Jerry have a nice night [Music]